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Misapplying Godwin's Law
Or, Censorship by any other name still stinks
Or, Weasel's Law not Godwin's Law
From: Malcolm Carlock (malc@voicenet.com) Subject: Godwin's Law (so called), or Censorship by any other name still stinks Newsgroups: alt.peeves, talk.politics.guns Date: 1997/08/21
In article <5ta3j0$dq4@engnews1.Eng.Sun.COM>, Geoff Miller <geoffm@purplehaze.Eng.Sun.COM> wrote: > >In the Seventies, it was Archie Bunker. Nowadays, it's Rush Limbaugh. >(And needless to say, Herr Schickelgruber has always been available to >fall back on.) This approach is employed as a substitute for rational >argument, and it goes to show how much importance liberals place on >emotional hot buttons in lieu of intelligent discussion.
Indeed. How right you are.
>I've long >believed that Godwin's Law should be expanded to include the gratuitous >mention of such figures.
Peeve: Mike Godwin never said anything like what is implied above. See http://www.killfile.org/faqs/godwin.html
Therefore, I shall substitute the more correct term "Weasel's Law" in the remainder of this article, in reference to the concept Geoff mentions above.
Peeve: The acceptance and invokation of "Weasel's Law" by people who should know better.
"Weasel's Law" amounts to nothing more than an excuse to avoid intelligent discussion, not too unlike what Mr. Miller correctly derides above.
For Example:
Poster #1: "Given that a neighborhood of Polish ghetto Jews were able to hold off an entire Nazi division for a month with a few small arms and limited ammunition, one might surmise that, had the German Jewish community (and German non-Nazis in general) not been systematically disarmed largely via "reasonable" gun-control laws passed during the Weimar regime, Hitler's regime would likely never have been able to carry out the Holocaust, and indeed his street-thug government might never have been allowed to rise to power at all."
Poster #2: "Nyah nyah, you said 'Nazi' and 'Hitler', so this thread is now dead according to Weasel's Law, and I don't have any obligation to respond intelligently to anything you said! Neener neener neener!!!"
Unfortunately, all too many Poster #2's respond as above, and far too many otherwise intelligent USENET participants (though by no means all) are thusly willing to let a thread die, rewarding with a victory of sorts the pants-wetting histrionics of the Poster #2's of the world.
"Weasel's Law" is censorship -- dress it up as "gentlemanly restraint" all you like -- stinks just as strongly, and is invoked as a debating tool (as opposed to more or less mentioning it in passing, as the esteemed Mr. Miller has done above) by folks equally odiferous, or by the simply credible.
-- Malcolm L. Carlock <malc@voicenet.com>
From: Jym Dyer (jym@igc.org) Subject: Re: Godwin's Law (so called), or Censorship by any other name still stinks Newsgroups: alt.peeves, talk.politics.guns Date: 1997/08/22
> Peeve: Mike Godwin never said anything like what is implied > above.
=o= We may never know. Godwin writes online messages like Stephen King writes novels. A few decades of R&D on search engine technology might make it possible to do a comprehensive search of his oeuvre. :-)
> "Weasel's Law" amounts to nothing more than an excuse to avoid > intelligent discussion . . .
=o= Weasel's Law also explicitly and automatically excludes all discussion of fascism and neonazis. Gee, now who could possibly benefit from such exclusion. Who could it be, I just don't know. Could it be . . . SATAN?
ObPeeve: I had to say "Satan" because Weasel's Law inhibits me from saying "Hitler."
<_Jym_>
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